Libertarians are a fractious bunch, like any ideological movement there are various camps and tensions between the big ideas and practical politics. In this moment of loud calls for policing reforms, it is worth noting that the libertarian movement has long been on the correct side of the issue. The coalitional problems arise when the far-left get involved and when riots, random violence or looting occur. Some libertarians harbor deep conservative sensibilities when it comes to law enforcement, the military and civility. Caleb Franz of Young Voices and The MilLiberty Initiative spends a lot of time thinking about this, so he was a perfect guest to join Underscored and break it all down.